LetsGetItStartedNow on Nov 3, 2010 Said:

@MANUTD4LIFE171 – In case you didn’t know the big race was the BC classic not the turf. Get a life will you?

LetsGetItStartedNow on Nov 3, 2010 Said:

@MANUTD4LIFE171 – You dumbass, the commentator you mentioned is European. Probably was born in the same barn you were born in.

LetsGetItStartedNow on Nov 3, 2010 Said:

@MANUTD4LIFE171 – and why didn’t henrythenavigator navigate his ass to the breeders cup? If your horse is too afraid to run against the best horse in the world, don’t make any claims.

LetsGetItStartedNow on Nov 3, 2010 Said:

@MANUTD4LIFE171 – What are you… a french a**hole? If you think your horses are so good why are they afraid to race with Zenyatta? Quite frankly, next week’s BC is terribly week. I’m really surprise Zenyatta is at 5-2 odds. I’m definitely investing on that race. I wish Sea of the Storm, Goldikova, Zakarava were up against her so we could shut your foreign mouth once and for all.

MANUTD4LIFE171 on Nov 3, 2010 Said:

@LetsGetItStartedNow No times arent concrete but on synthetics there accurate, there not accurate on turf as the ground varies due to rainfall but on synthetics times are pretty useful to know, and usually represent how high class a race, the race was

MANUTD4LIFE171 on Nov 3, 2010 Said:

@LetsGetItStartedNow Its Sea The Stars not Sea Of The Stars, which you have written twice. There clearly is no point debating with you as you dont even know the name of last years WORLD horse of the year. I f your new to racing then cool but dont try and pretend you know stuff when you dont, as any racing fan worth there salt wouldnt spell Sea The Stars, as Sea of The Stars.

Zenyatta is a hype horse and has got loads of new people into racing in the states, so il assume your one of them

LetsGetItStartedNow on Nov 3, 2010 Said:

@MANUTD4LIFE171 – I wasn’t impressed with Sea Of the Stars. No kick at all. Looks like all the other horses just run out of breath. Zenyatta would crush Sea Of the Stars. No question about that.

LetsGetItStartedNow on Nov 3, 2010 Said:

@MANUTD4LIFE171 You handicap like a barber. I know a few claiming horses that has a better time than 1m 59.27s. It really doesn’t mean anything. A jockey will only push a horse hard enough to win. Jockey’s are not going for a track record in a race. In case you didn’t know, they determine who wins the race by who beats who in a race.

MANUTD4LIFE171 on Nov 3, 2010 Said:

@LetsGetItStartedNow Sea The Stars never raced in the BC because he chose to race in the Arc instead, which is a far stronger race, he had nothing to prove, but it didnt stop Zenyattas connections panicking that he may run, and they cleverly waited to make sure he wasnt there before they put her unbeaten record on the line in the Classic, Had STS been in the Classic Zenyatta would of run in the Mares Classic, as they knew she would of been well beaten by STS, her connections protect her

MANUTD4LIFE171 on Nov 3, 2010 Said:

@LetsGetItStartedNow Sea The Stars won 6 straight Group 1s, he didt duck the chalenges like Zenyatta does and run in G2s and 3s, he hammered the likes of Conduit by 6 lenghs. You no Conduit the same Conduit who went over for the Breeders Cup turf and hammered all your rubbish horses 2 years on the trot. I dread to think what Sea The Stars would of done to any of the shit you have over there

Timeform rating

Sea The Stars 140
Zenyatta 132

Thats all you Americans need to know

MANUTD4LIFE171 on Nov 3, 2010 Said:

@LetsGetItStartedNow Mostly all of them???? Debussy current Arlington Million winner, yet hes never been good enough to win a G1 over here, just shows its easy pickings over there, Goldikova duel BC Mile Winner, Midday Current BC Mare turf winner. Perhaps you could remind me of any American horses who have won over here?????????

None of our best horses ever go over there, it would be to easy for the likes of Sea The Stars or Zarkava, after all if Debussy can win a G1 over there anyone can

LetsGetItStartedNow on Nov 3, 2010 Said:

@MANUTD4LIFE171 Sea the Stars… are you on drugs? Sea the Stars would look like a flag pole at the stretch against Zenyatta. If that horse is so good they would of shipped him over here to run in the Classic. They’re smart enough to know they would lose.

LetsGetItStartedNow on Nov 3, 2010 Said:

@MANUTD4LIFE171 – All your jockeys ride like they’re in a freaking steeple chase when they race here. Looks f^&king retarded.

LetsGetItStartedNow on Nov 3, 2010 Said:

@MANUTD4LIFE171 – Please refrain from the disrespectful comments you f&*king moron. If you go talk to jockeys, trainers and people that know how to handicap horses, they will tell you that jockeys will only let their horses run fast “enough” to win the race. They are not all running to break a track record.

And all us American’s know is that win you dumbass foreigners come here to race, you lose mostly all of them.

MANUTD4LIFE171 on Nov 3, 2010 Said:

@LetsGetItStartedNow Again your showing your ignorance, so your saying European jockeys cant ride horses

So what your saying is basicaly Ravens Pass had a jockey who cant ride onboard and still beat all your American trash, what a horse he must of been to ever come the fact he had a bad jockey and still beat Zenyattas time by over a second, perhaps he would of beat it by 2 or maybe 3 seconds, if he had an American jockey who knew how to ride lol your an idiot

MANUTD4LIFE171 on Nov 3, 2010 Said:

@LetsGetItStartedNow Your an idiot, so New Approach and Cape Blanco have beaten Twice Over by 6 lenghs, so i assume that puts them 4 lenghs ahead of Zenyatta, by your reasoning, as you seem to be so naive about Ravens Passes form

Also one other point

Ravens Pass Winning time 1m 59.27s
Zenyattas winning time 2m 0.62s

Thats all you Americans need to know

LetsGetItStartedNow on Nov 3, 2010 Said:

One of your biggest problem with European horse racing is that the jockey’s don’t know how to ride horses. Biggest reason why they can’t win here.

LetsGetItStartedNow on Nov 3, 2010 Said:

@MANUTD4LIFE171 Zenyatta hasn’t raced in asphalt or fertilizer either but are we going to make those kind of hypothetical assumptions who could win? The fact is, Zenyatta beat Twice Over and Twice Over beat Raven’s Pass. All the lame horses you mentioned are not in the same class as Zenyatta. She is two classes above the junk horses you mentioned. Now if you were comparing your foreign horses to Mine that Bird or Summer Bird… yes you have a rational argument.

MANUTD4LIFE171 on Nov 3, 2010 Said:

@LetsGetItStartedNow I love your dumb ass American commentator, “look at Curlin go is this believable”. You would think American TV would actualy employ a commentator who can read a race, making out the race is all over with 2 furlongs to go, what a fucking idiot, if he had actually been calling the race properly he would of noticed that Ravens was travelling better, instead of making himself look like a complete Dumbass, and in the process giving us Europeans yet another reason to laugh at you

MANUTD4LIFE171 on Nov 3, 2010 Said:

@LetsGetItStartedNow There are no European Horses in the Classic as its back on dirt, you yanks couldnt stand it that we produced a 1-2 in your biggest race on a neutral surface, that our turf horses dont race on either, so they took the cowards way out, had Curlin won, they wouldnt of changed it back, But Curlin was exposed as a very average horse, compared to some of the ones we have over here, Henry and Ravens werent even the best we had in 2008, as Zarkava and New Approach were better

MANUTD4LIFE171 on Nov 3, 2010 Said:

@LetsGetItStartedNow Ravens Pass also lost to Henrythenavigator by 5 lenghs in the 2000 Guineas, that was after losing to Twice Over. he then lost to Henry 2 more times after the Guineas, before finaly maturing into the horse he had promised to be and beating Henry in the QE2, he then beat Henry again in the BC classic

What im saying is Ravens improved loads since the loss to Twice Over, and his form through Henry proves this, he was a late developing 3 year old.

MANUTD4LIFE171 on Nov 3, 2010 Said:

@LetsGetItStartedNow You are the one who is clueless, first of all Twice Over and Ravens Pass are both Turf horses, and had never raced on Synthetics, unlike Zenyatta who races on them week in week out, it says it all that an average European horse like Twice Over was 3rd in your strongest race, on a surface hed never raced on

LetsGetItStartedNow on Nov 3, 2010 Said:

@MANUTD4LIFE171 – Are there any foreigners you like in the 2010 Breeders Cup that you think will beat Zenyatta? Put your money where your mouth is.

LetsGetItStartedNow on Nov 3, 2010 Said:

@MANUTD4LIFE171 – You’re either on drugs or you probably need some.

LetsGetItStartedNow on Nov 3, 2010 Said:

@MANUTD4LIFE171 – You apparently don’t know anything about handicapping horses. You use patriotism to pick horses. What a joke. If you remember, Twice over beat the shit out of Raven’s Pass…. and guess what? Zenyatta beat the shit out of Twice Over in the 2009 Breeders Cup.